Comments on: Helicopter Crash Videos http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html talking about outdoor adventure... Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:29:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Carter http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-64803 Carter Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:17:19 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-64803 Nicholas, try to Google the USAAVNS (US Army Aviation School) at Ft. Rucker, AL. Try to find the Public Affairs Office and I'm sure they'll help you with some links and sites to visit. Nicholas, try to Google the USAAVNS (US Army Aviation
School) at Ft. Rucker, AL. Try to find the Public Affairs
Office and I’m sure they’ll help you with some links and sites to visit.

]]> By: Nicholas Cheruiyot Koiyet http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-64772 Nicholas Cheruiyot Koiyet Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:14:39 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-64772 I find helicopter mechanism of action very interesting,i have interest in stuying its machanics[plane mechanics],could some one direct me where i can study, i am a student in New York. I find helicopter mechanism of action very interesting,i have interest in stuying its machanics[plane mechanics],could some one direct me where i can study, i am a student in New York.

]]> By: Carter http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-62226 Carter Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:14:24 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-62226 I lost my tail rotor in Vietnam. It was a UH-D on approach with nearly max power. When the tail rotor went the ship spun so fast there was hardly time to center the cyclic and bottom the collective. The folks behind me said that we went around three or four times. No injuries thank goodness. I lost my tail rotor in Vietnam. It was a UH-D on approach with nearly max power. When the tail rotor went the ship spun so fast there was hardly time to center the cyclic and bottom the collective. The folks behind me said that we went around three or four times. No injuries thank goodness.

]]> By: Ron http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-6221 Ron Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:18:36 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-6221 I am a flight medic and know the risk of flying in helicopters. It is healthy to always be reminded that crashes and death happen in this line of work. It keeps you on your toes and is a reminder that you must always practice saftey everyday. I am a flight medic and know the risk of flying in helicopters. It is healthy to always be reminded that crashes and death happen in this line of work. It keeps you on your toes and is a reminder that you must always practice saftey everyday.

]]> By: Air transport pilot helicopter ATPL(H) http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-5614 Air transport pilot helicopter ATPL(H) Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:55:36 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-5614 The CH46 experienced an un controlled rate of decent (ROD) during the last 50ft. It's whats known as Vortex ring state, high ROD, washing off airspeed and pulling in lots of collective pitch to hold the CH46 in a stable hover above the deck, instead they impacted the deck allowing the left rear gear strut to attach it' self to the safety netting, when the pilot applied collective pitch up the helicopter experienced "Dynamic Roll over". where it pivoted around a moment, thus reaching a critical point of no return in seconds. a simple sad mistake, thats easily done. The 2nd is of the same principle high ROD, large flare, high pitch setting to allow a 5-6ft IGE hover. upon hitting the deck, the aircraft experienced a Tail rotor failure, this turning momentum can be stopped by rolling off the throttle, stopping the twisting motion of the main rotors, - the tail rotor stops the helicopter from wanting to spin in the same direction as the rotors. The CH46 experienced an un controlled rate of decent (ROD) during the last 50ft. It’s whats known as Vortex ring state, high ROD, washing off airspeed and pulling in lots of collective pitch to hold the CH46 in a stable hover above the deck, instead they impacted the deck allowing the left rear gear strut to attach it’ self to the safety netting, when the pilot applied collective pitch up the helicopter experienced “Dynamic Roll over”. where it pivoted around a moment, thus reaching a critical point of no return in seconds. a simple sad mistake, thats easily done.

The 2nd is of the same principle high ROD, large flare, high pitch setting to allow a 5-6ft IGE hover. upon hitting the deck, the aircraft experienced a Tail rotor failure, this turning momentum can be stopped by rolling off the throttle, stopping the twisting motion of the main rotors, - the tail rotor stops the helicopter from wanting to spin in the same direction as the rotors.

]]> By: Marine Helo http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-4637 Marine Helo Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:34:36 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-4637 Brendan (Only 1 Comment) Says: In response to: July 25th, 2006 at 11:41 pm Hi Mark J, Ive seen the CH46 video before and would be interested if you have details on the incident. It looks more like a single engine approach that goes wrong. A hard enough thing on land but when you only have a small deck to hit….. It looks like the vessel also knew he had a problem as there are two saftey boats in trail, not a standard procedure. You can go to http://www.marinescoutsniper.com/sniperpages/galloway.html to find out more information. I knew the pilots, the two crew chiefs and the one veteran crew chief (of 20 years). His name is Gunnery SGT James Paige. The other two crew chiefs were hurt badly, but recovered phsycially, never mentally, as they lost a friend, mentor and great Marine (man) who loved the Marine Corps and his family. Brendan (Only 1 Comment) Says:

In response to:

July 25th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
Hi Mark J,
Ive seen the CH46 video before and would be interested if you have details on the incident. It looks more like a single engine approach that goes wrong. A hard enough thing on land but when you only have a small deck to hit….. It looks like the vessel also knew he had a problem as there are two saftey boats in trail, not a standard procedure.

You can go to http://www.marinescoutsniper.com/sniperpages/galloway.html to find out more information. I knew the pilots, the two crew chiefs and the one veteran crew chief (of 20 years). His name is Gunnery SGT James Paige. The other two crew chiefs were hurt badly, but recovered phsycially, never mentally, as they lost a friend, mentor and great Marine (man) who loved the Marine Corps and his family.

]]> By: Marine Helo http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-4632 Marine Helo Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:33:00 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-4632 The first video - the one on the flight deck - did not happen in 2005. This accident happend in 1999. Yes, people died - Marines died. I knew some of them and I attended the funeral. The person that wrote that the wheel got caught is correct. The first video - the one on the flight deck - did not happen in 2005. This accident happend in 1999. Yes, people died - Marines died. I knew some of them and I attended the funeral. The person that wrote that the wheel got caught is correct.

]]> By: Tommy Gunn http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-4393 Tommy Gunn Tue, 12 Sep 2006 04:47:43 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-4393 I worked on UH-60's for many years...95% yes, 95% of all helicopter accidents/crashes are attributed to pilot error. Very few mechanical problems occur that have a direct effect on those stats. Engines fail, gear boxes and transmission seize, hydraulic malfunctions, rotor blades suddenly just fly appart or a blade is shucked, but the most causes are human error. Helicopters are designed as a rotory flying wing, a very precarious way to get air born, let alone fly fowrard with a level altitude. They are constantly trying to tear themselves apart as opposing rotations/torque stress their very design. Most accidents are error in judgement and expertise at the controls. A good pilot is an alive pilot when it comes to flying helicopters. They do not glide very well, but most have an auto-rotation feature that allows the blades to free-wheel giving lift so that only a HARD landing occurs...one where you just might walk away from but the helicopter my be a bit bent in the process. Like the experienced pilots say, "Any landing you walk away from is a good landing." Thanks for posting on web...very informative. ie: to blade is shucked. AH-64 Apache flying over Miss/Ala disappears, one rotor blade found, identified as AH-64 rotor blade...weeks later bass fisherman report oil oozing to surface in swamp. Turns out to be missing AH-64 with both transport, non-military, pilots aboard, they were deceased. The blade flew 1 mile from the crash site with the main body submerged deep into the muddy swamp. Mechanical failure. I worked on UH-60’s for many years…95% yes, 95% of all helicopter accidents/crashes are attributed to pilot error. Very few mechanical problems occur that have a direct effect on those stats. Engines fail, gear boxes and transmission seize, hydraulic malfunctions, rotor blades suddenly just fly appart or a blade is shucked, but the most causes are human error. Helicopters are designed as a rotory flying wing, a very precarious way to get air born, let alone fly fowrard with a level altitude. They are constantly trying to tear themselves apart as opposing rotations/torque stress their very design. Most accidents are error in judgement and expertise at the controls. A good pilot is an alive pilot when it comes to flying helicopters. They do not glide very well, but most have an auto-rotation feature that allows the blades to free-wheel giving lift so that only a HARD landing occurs…one where you just might walk away from but the helicopter my be a bit bent in the process. Like the experienced pilots say, “Any landing you walk away from is a good landing.” Thanks for posting on web…very informative.

ie: to blade is shucked. AH-64 Apache flying over Miss/Ala disappears, one rotor blade found, identified as AH-64 rotor blade…weeks later bass fisherman report oil oozing to surface in swamp. Turns out to be missing AH-64 with both transport, non-military, pilots aboard, they were deceased. The blade flew 1 mile from the crash site with the main body submerged deep into the muddy swamp. Mechanical failure.

]]> By: Jeermy http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-3705 Jeermy Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:24:50 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-3705 The 47 looks like a training flight and what he had was a dynamic roll over. He actually could have saved it by full down collective but being a newer pilot (assumed) then he prob panicked when it didn't set perfect. He came in way to fast and with the 47 being a twin engine with VERY huge chord lines on those blades he still could have auto rotated in safely and wouldn't have tried to pull back up into a hover if it was in fact a malfunction but known that was as good as he had. The other one was most surely a graduation or show of some sort and it does look like the pilot smacked the ground with the tail first. Unfortunately the only thing that could have saved it is to kill the throttle and kill the toque produced by the engines but I doubt the pilot was aware of what happened until the helicopter started its spin, and was to late. The guy I feel sorry for is the one that fell out and was bobbing and weaving his way away from the bird. Anyone know the outcome of that? The 47 looks like a training flight and what he had was a dynamic roll over. He actually could have saved it by full down collective but being a newer pilot (assumed) then he prob panicked when it didn’t set perfect. He came in way to fast and with the 47 being a twin engine with VERY huge chord lines on those blades he still could have auto rotated in safely and wouldn’t have tried to pull back up into a hover if it was in fact a malfunction but known that was as good as he had. The other one was most surely a graduation or show of some sort and it does look like the pilot smacked the ground with the tail first. Unfortunately the only thing that could have saved it is to kill the throttle and kill the toque produced by the engines but I doubt the pilot was aware of what happened until the helicopter started its spin, and was to late. The guy I feel sorry for is the one that fell out and was bobbing and weaving his way away from the bird. Anyone know the outcome of that?

]]> By: Adam D http://blog.TeamGearedUp.com/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-3663 Adam D Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:51:39 +0000 http://www.bytesurgery.com/gearedup/2006/01/helicopter-crash-videos.html#comment-3663 Their are some crazy mishaps. That shows how dangerous and unpredictable things can be in rotory flight.. Their are some crazy mishaps. That shows how dangerous and unpredictable things can be in rotory flight..

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